A longer winter break / WYLC mental health panel

Hello my lovely listeners.  Just a quick check in to say that instead of returning this week we will in fact be taking an indefinite hiatus while I give full attention to a health issue I am dealing with.  I do have some wonderful guests scheduled to record later in the year but just when we will be recording and releasing those episodes I do not know yet.  Stay subscribed to the podcast feed or to Facebook or Twitter and you will know when we start back up.

In the meantime, subject to that health issue, I am appearing on the Wellington Young Lawyer Committee panel on junior lawyer mental health and wellbeing on 16 August, so if you want a podcast-like fix and you are in Wellington, please come!  You can book here.

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Episode 19: Solicitor Chris talks the joy of innovation, lawyerly risk aversion, and alternative career paths

This episode was all about innovation in law, a topic I and my guest Chris get very excited about.  It includes a brainstorm on how to balance the need for innovation with good ol' lawyerly risk aversion.  In researching for this episode I came across a press release for a 2016 report on innovation in Australasia that includes the sentence, "The majority of Australasian law firms rate themselves as innovative but there is little evidence to support this claim...". However, it is not all bleak; below are some examples of lawyers already thinking differently and doing cool things to modernise how law is practised.  Again, I must emphasise my recommendation that all lawyers read the Marque Lawyers website in its wonderful entirety.  

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Episode 18: Julia Batchelor-Smith talks construction law, non-linear careers and hard core self care

In this episode I sat down with the lawyer self care guru herself, Julia Batchelor-Smith, to talk all things self care, balance and contentment (and nerd out about the Construction Contracts Act; apologies).  We covered some GREAT stuff, including non-linear careers, taking time out to do crazy always-wanted-to ventures, parenting and lawyering, microcredentialing (Katie learns a word), how to keep on top of stress, how to manage mistakes, financial literacy and the business of Spanx.

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Episode 17 - NZLS President Kathryn Beck talks employment law, the future of New Zealand lawyers, and loving your work

Hello again beautiful listeners.  This episode I went to Auckland to sit down with the Law Society's current president, Kathryn Beck, who is also a partner at employment firm SBM Legal.  We had a delicious wide-ranging conversation about her career as an employment lawyer, her longstanding involvement in different parts of the Law Society, her vision for the best future for law in New Zealand, her advice to new lawyers, her thoughts on mental health for lawyers, and her joy and love for the practice of law.  It is always wonderful to watch someone who loves what they do, do what they do, and now you all get to listen along to that too.  There is so much in this discussion, feel free to take it in bits if need be, with breaks for refreshment etc. 

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Episode 16 - Anna talks all-or-nothing in practice, the work of a litigation solicitor, and what great law firm culture looks like

This week's episode is almost a case study for episode 15.  I talked to Anna, a third year litigation solicitor at a mid-sized firm about how she found some moderation in her all-or-nothing personality type.  The answer seems to lie in the direction of self awareness and a great law firm culture, with a touch of mindfulness practice thrown in.  I particularly loved getting into what makes her workplace so supportive of sustainable success; it's a recipe for us all.  We also had lovely chats about how she came to work at that firm in only second year of law school, and her experiences as a young woman lawyer (there is even some comeuppance, listeners!).  I do hope you enjoy.

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A favour from you, dear listeners and readers, regarding some big news

I am about to ask you a favour, in service of me and your fellow lawyer and prospective lawyer colleagues.  The benefit to me and them will be immense, and we are alllll grateful. 

The big news - following certain inquiries and interest, Symphony Law will soon be offering new lawyer coaching. This feels magnificent to me.  There is nothing I love more than interesting, juicy conversations with good people (hence the podcast), except reading the kinds of books that fuel those conversations.  If I can turn that attention on an individual lawyer to coach them to a more enjoyable, sustainable, successful and authentic career, then you better believe I am going to do that.

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Episode 15: Psychologist Mike talks burnout, the gentle antidote to an extreme lawyerly personality, and tools for sustainable achievement

This episode is a bit different from others in that Mike is not himself a lawyer, but he treats lawyers in his practice as a clinical psychologist and basically wrote a book about us, so it counts. We discussed all or nothing personalities (of course), the antidote to the extreme versions of that personality, the consequences of letting your all or nothing nature rule your life, and what life looks and feels like when it's not quite so all or nothing.  

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No episode this fortnight, but look! A column!

Hello listeners, lovely to see you again.  There is no podcast episode this fortnight, but luckily The New Lawyer is now also a column in LawTalk, so diehard fans can have a supplementary dose that way to tide them over to next time.  If you do not receive a hard copy you can read online over here.  With the column I plan to offer ideas and reflections for new lawyers on many of the same topics covered by the podcast, but in full sentences with punctuation and everything. I am especially pleased that the editorial staff chose this issue to adopt my recommendation that more dogs feature on the cover of the magazine.  The cows on issue 902 were a nice diversion, but really it's the dogs we've been hankering for since issue 894, amiright?  I am right.

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Episode 14: Eric talks Community Law, attitudes to mistakes, and idealism vs realism in legal practice

This episode I interviewed Eric Yu, a third year solicitor at Christchurch's Community Law office.  We talked about so much wonderful stuff, including the virtues of volunteering for Community Law and the breadth of experience you can get there, how to deal with mistakes when they inevitably occur, the imperfect and sometimes unjust nature of our legal system, and how to cope with emotional fatigue and gloom at systemic injustice.  It was so great.

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Episode 13: Mahafrin talks immigration and refugee law, the young woman migrant lawyer experience, and career advancement in litigation

You guys.  This episode.  So cool.  Mahafrin was born in India, mostly raised in Dubai, and immigrated with her family to New Zealand when she was 15.  She practises in an immigration and refugee law firm in Auckland.  She attended an international human rights conference a couple of years ago that you might want to attend in Sydney this year.  In the episode we discuss all of this, values clashes, racial and gender prejudice, and law as purpose, and she picks my brain on advancement in litigation.  It's wonderful.

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Episode 12: George talks alternative summer clerking, the life of a barrister and competitions - The New Lawyer Podcast

George the law student/barristers' clerk joins me this episode for a micro discussion on life as a junior in a barristers' chambers and how he got the job in the first place, as well as how much a little confidence goes a long way in the world of autonomous legal practice.  

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Episode 11: Clayton talks quarter-life crises, unorthodox career paths, and practising with depression

In this episode I speak to Clayton Carrick-Leslie about all sorts, but focusing on two key areas: (1) career paths and options, including part time work, inhouse counsel work and law-related management and leadership work, and (2) depression, suicide, quarterlife crises, and how to live and work amidst these things.  Clayton talks about his own experiences with depression and the impact of a friend's suicide at a Sydney law firm and why in his experience corporations have better cultures than law firms.  It was a fun and joyful chat, complete with impromptu brainstorming session about what to do when you're in acute distress at work, though of course the trigger warning goes (almost) without saying.

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Episode 10: Solicitor General Una Jagose QC talks Crown Law, the LGBT lawyer experience, and what lawyers look like.

Una Jagose QC, New Zealand's Solicitor General, sat down with me to talk about her career in the public sector and her thoughts on work and lawyering.  It was such a lovely chat, with so much delicious chunky wisdom and insight, and with such a tone of ease and fun, I keep tugging people on the sleeve and telling them to listen to it.  If you're reading this, take it as a virtual sleeve-tug and get to listening yourself. 

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Episode 9: Josh Pemberton talks Supreme Court clerkships, Harvard University and the Pemberton Report

Well.  I don't need to tell you guys how cool this episode is, but it really was very cool. We spent most of the episode discussing the results of Josh's research, but not before we discussed Josh's own legal career, which to date has included a Supreme Court clerkship, work for a rule of law-based NGO in Myanmar, and now a Masters degree at Harvard. 

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Episode 8: Coroner Elliott talks the virtues of barristership, therapeutic jurisprudence, and being wrong

In this episode I talk to Coroner Marcus Elliott about his career and his writing.  His career includes barristers' chambers, small firms, large firms, the Royal Commission of Inquiry following the Christchurch earthquakes, the legal departments of County Boroughs in the UK, a pub, and now the Coronial Court, so there is much to cover.

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Episode 7: Tom talks criminal defence, workload management and job-hunting

In this episode I interview Tom, an S2 at the Public Defence Service, about life as a junior criminal defence lawyer.  

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Episode 6: Robin talks second careers, mental health and the importance of morning tea - The New Lawyer Podcast

Well.  This was a rich and important episode.  I spoke with Robin, a now senior solicitor but former mental health practitioner about his career and the issue of mental health in the New Zealand legal profession (you can see why we ran long).  

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Episode 5: Justice Glazebrook talks gender diversity, how to respond to feedback and expectations of your new lawyer job - The New Lawyer Podcast

Well, what an episode.  Justice Glazebrook of New Zealand's Supreme Court was kind enough to sit down with me and talk in depth about several issues raised in the Pemberton Report for junior lawyers, confidence and imposter syndrome, gender bias and discrimination, and the expectation-vs-reality issue for new lawyers.  

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